Thursday, June 03, 2010

advice needed cuz i'm in strange territory and don't know what to do here

so here's the thing...

I have a friend. he's a good friend. At least I thought so.

We kind of "broke up" yesterday, and I don't really know why.

Now, this is a man, yes, but we really were "just friends".

We would talk about his dates and what he should do and wear and such...

sample:

him..."What should I wear? clothes?" (we have the same twisted sense of humor)

me...."Yes, clothes would be good in this situation. How about the blue striped shirt you have? and be sure and start buttoning it from the bottom up so you don't screw it all up."

him..."fuck you"

me...."no thank you"

him..."Should I kiss her?"

me...."sure, if you feel it. but DO NOT have sex on the first date.Not unless all you're looking for is a booty call, then by all means, get your freak on."

yada yada...you get the idea.

So we would talk about everything. I could be myself around him...cuss in front of him. call him a motherfucker if I wanted to and he wouldn't get mad at me, or scream at me. I could even BURP in front of him and he would rate them! "That was only a 3, Red, (he calls me Red) come on..you can do better than that!" (there is NO burping in my house by me...women "don't do that" and I get yelled at if I burp...or fart, cuz women don't do that either)

So we talk every day, text every day, that sort of thing. FRIENDS. and Monday we had a really good conversation about what he's looking for in a woman. he's recently divorced and just dating around. Well, we both have a twisted, sarcastic sense of humor...the more twisted, the better. So I told him I found him a 12 year old who wore sundresses and had a bush down to her knees...and he got grossed out, and we laughed, cuz that's the complete opposite of what he's looking for.

Then Tuesday, he was going out after work with a woman, for drinks. And I was texting him, asking if she was there yet, what does she look like?,...is she cuter than me? that kind of thing. Just joking around with him, like we always do.

Then yesterday, he didn't say "Moanin Red" like he does every morning in a text..and I asked him if he was mad at me. I mean, he wakes me up every morning with this text. and he said, "not really". WTF does THAT mean? I asked him if it was because I was being so obnoxious the night before..(and I was totally obnoxious, which I usually am around him cuz thats who I am in real life!)..I apologized profusely, told him I was only joking that I hoped she didn't show up, that sort of thing.

He says this: "You meant to do exactly what you did. so don't say your sorry"

I said, "what exactly did I do?"

he said, "tried to ruin my time with someone else"

WHATTHEFUCK??!!!!!

So, we didn't speak all day yesterday, then last night he said that he wants me to stop texting him...don't call him, don't text him..he is done with women, yada yada yada.

Now, in his defense, his wife screwed him over bad, so he kind of hates all women right now, but I thought we had worked past that..and had settled into a nice fun friendship. I could bust his chops and he could bust mine. I talked to him when I was upset, and he talked to me when he was upset. When a date didn't work out, we talked about it, what could he do different next time...that kind of stuff.

So I am just a little flabbergasted by all of this right now. and hurt.

I am a big supporter of men and women being friends together. Marvin says NO WAY can they be friends cuz one of the two always wants to have sex with the other one. Men and women CAN'T be friends. But I don't think that way. I think a little sexual tension is bound to happen...we are Humans after all. But I think you can get past that and move on to something deeper and lasting.

So to lose this friend is sad to me. very very sad. and I am sad today. and crying today. and miserable today. and I'm left wondering, "what the hell happened? and where was I when this happened?!" and yes, Marvin knows we are friends....there is nothing secret going on here.

And while we're on the "marvin front"...things are the same. some things never change and some things always stay the same.

so what the hell is going on here? what should I do? do I just give my friend space and see what happens? I'm lost.

22 comments:

MJ said...

Best advice I can think of is give him his space. Send him a text or an email or a voicemail, whatever you think is best, letting him know you'll be there when he comes around again, then let him have his space.

But when he does come around (and I'm sure he will, they always do), make sure you bust his chops about it and tell him if he EVER does this to you again, he's toast.

I'm not all for letting someone push you around, but if this is some weird freak out and it's the first time, I'd let it slide. Just once. Because you're a great friend, not a doormat.

Sorry you're hurting. Hopefully he comes to his senses soon.

froggy said...

>>he's recently divorced<<

I just wonder if there is a lot more in that statement from his perspective?

Beth said...

mj: good advice..thanks. and I WILL bust his chops HARD!

froggy: hmmmm....what do you mean? I know he's still hurting but why push me away?

Beth said...

froggy: I told him, "Im not the one who hurt you!!! Biotch!" LOLOLOL

Nomad said...

hmmm....maybe he does care for you.

sorry you feel bad.

Maybe you did cross a line, but it might also be a stage in his experience of separating from his ex.

GOOD LUCK!

snugs said...

if y'all were/are that good of friends and joke around like that there must be something more to it....so, were you jealous that he was out with someone else? Or do you secretly want to have a hot steamy affair with him? or he with you?? Could you really be happy for him if he finds love and sex and excitement with some other woman??? I am all for women and men being friends, but I am single, if I was married I am not sure how that really could have worked and especially when your marriage is on the rocks or going thru a rough patch, you need to be very careful.....but Iam sorry that he has hurt you :)

Jennie said...

That sucks, Beth. I don't have any advice, except allow him his space and let him decide when to resume the friendship. Sometimes, the confusion is the worst part, because when we don't understand, we can't fix it. You probably need to let that go for now.

((((HUGS))))

Beth said...

snugs: its not like that at all...we really ARE just friends, and I DO want him to be happy. He just can't find happiness cuz he hates women right now!

snugs said...

maybe suggest he give men a try then, lol

mistress maddie said...

Until he's ready to talk, I'd give him space. You didn't do anything wrong. And if you never talk again, being friends is not part of the plan.

Miss Ginger Grant said...

Well, SOMETHING happened, that's for sure!
Here are the "maybes" as Miss G sees it:
1. Maybe he weirded out because he took something you said as a step too far...thinking you "wanted" him.
2. Maybe he weirded out because something you said made him realize he "wants" you... and you're married.
3. Maybe he weirded out because his date went all bitch on your ass and told him some shit about carrying on a friendship via text and making speculations about your intentions...
4. Maybe he just weirded out... he's a man.

I'm with MJ- leave a consolatory message with an offer of space and hope he comes around!~

kristi said...

I say you have apologized and if he doesn't come around, it's on him. Can't beg people to be your friend and even family hurts us sometimes...I am in that boat right now.

Don't you just wish people would tell you why they are pissed and then you can work it out???

Zombie Mom said...

Dudes are totally cryptic.

I think he is crushed out on you. And well, you and I have talked this thru.

I figure yal will be pals before its time to put away the white shoes.

kayce. said...

DUH ~ he likes you.

i'm sorry, but i'm of the school of thought that men and women can rarely (VERY rarely) be "just" platonic friends: there is almost always some type of feeling on one side or the other. i know that's the antithesis of your beliefs, but also consider that he's needy right now b/c of the divorce. the signs are there.

PLUS, it's obvious that his date w/ this woman didn't go well ~ for whatever reason ~ and he's projecting it on to you. his emotional vomit is boy-speak for "i like you, pay attention to me in a new way."

honestly beth, i think you should let him go for awhile. he needs to heal and get his head clear w/ out any codependency-based (on his part) crushes. i know you'll miss him, but he'll text or call when he's in a better place ~ or ready to admit the truth and hash it all out.

in the meantime, keep your head up, boo: you're amazing!!! <333

Beth said...

thanks guys...these are all really good. I had a good friend tell me last night that I am "abrasive and annoying at times" so I will just back off and let him have his space. Im here if he wants to talk....it'll be cool.

jax said...

dude has a hard on for you. the end.

Beth said...

jax: OMG~ girl you crack me up!!!!!!!

buffalodick said...

Don't take friendship for granted. Friendship doesn't mean you can say or do whatever comes into your head..I sense respect was starting to become not that important to you with him....

NedaD承蓁 said...

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Mel said...

yeah, he likes you. I don't believe in men and women can be friends, pals maybe but besties? not unless one of you is gay.

But i have so few friends i really shouldn't be giving advice anyway lol

Sam said...

I agree with the chinese person.
Anyho fuck him, get over yourself dude.
Beth friends don't play these kid games. Anyways your just to sweet for anyone to be mad at you.

XOXOXO
Tug

Beth said...

Tug: I love you Baby!!!! and while, yes, I AM sweet...I can be bitter at times too....and "abrasive and annoying" as I was recently told! HAHAHA!